Pretty upset
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Topic: Pretty upset
Posted By: kennyz06
Subject: Pretty upset
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2009 at 10:25am
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I dont normally complain about stuff, but I'm pretty upset with how aurora has been working this year. I've got some really weird stuff going on with my sequences and I've narrowed the issue down to software. I have some parts of songs where channels ALWAYS come on late. I believe there are hidden event markers that I cannot see, and thus, hidden events I cannot change. While they look fine in the sequencer, they are noticeably off when played live on the house. If anyone has any suggestions on how to get rid of these hidden events, I'd be extremely happy to hear them.
Go here to download the sequences and the music.
http://mckinneychristmas.com/sequences/ - http://mckinneychristmas.com/sequences/
The video section of http://www.mckinneychristmas.com - www.mckinneychristmas.com has videos showing the problems.
Check out the overture on 34th street video, and around 40 seconds in the sequence. Notice the lower roof lights come on for a split second as clear? That is a little "on" event in the sequence, with an event marker only on one side of it. You can see that in the sequence file when you look closely. Sure, I can delete that... but why is it there? Also notice how the center part of the star comes on late in parts of the sequences, but is dead on in other parts of that sequence. (carol of the bells, 10 sec and 1:09) If it was a controller issue, it would ALWAYS be late.
I'm tired of the random channels coming on after sequences are over, and some channels coming on late.
Kenny ------------- http://www.McKinneyChristmas.com - http://www.McKinneyChristmas.com 
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Posted By: deweycooter
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2009 at 1:20pm
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version? Have you tried redoing things in that part? Ie, for the problem event, delete the event before, during, and after, then add them back in. Is it still present? ------------- http://www.deweycooter.com/wiki/index.php/Aurora - Aurora Lights Wiki http://www.aurorashow.com/"> 
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Posted By: bdkeen
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2009 at 2:22pm
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Did you import these sequences? I've seen this happen with ones I imported but never in those that I've done from scratch. In most all cases I deleted the problematic controller and recreated and resequenced the 16 channels and cleared the problem. But this can take as much time if not more than simply doing the sequence from scratch. ------------- 
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Posted By: MrChristmas2000
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2009 at 4:22pm
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I agree with bdkeen, the problem can come from an imported sequence. Especially if you leave in the old channels or reuse old channels in the imported sequence. If you use an imported sequence use your own imported list of controllers and channels and delete the original channels when finished and mysterious thing will probably go away. I just had this happen on a new sequence. It all looked correct on the screen but when I ran the sequence random blips could be seen, (well only by me since I knew what was supposed to be on/off). However at the end of the sequence it ran over by as much as 30 seconds of just random flashing lights. Deleted all the imported channels and Poof! the random c*%#^p vanished. Happy New Year  Party Hearty but drive safe! ------------- http://www.aurorashow.com/"> 
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Posted By: kennyz06
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2009 at 9:25am
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I dont think I imported any sequences... but I could be wrong. I'll go back and check. Thanks for the info guys ------------- http://www.McKinneyChristmas.com - http://www.McKinneyChristmas.com
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Posted By: LightsOnLogan
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2009 at 1:29pm
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There are only two cases where events can be unbound from timeline markers: 1. Use of the W2E tool. Using W2E places events in the sequence without assigning them editable markers. 2. An incorrectly imported file (particularly prior to .69 which corrected a significant LOR2 importer issue). While we think we've corrected all of the import issues, it is possible there could be something we didn't spot in testing. If you have a file that doesn't import properly in the latest version of Aurora, please let us know so we can fix the importer issue. In both cases, unbound events are still able to be removed with the delete tool. ------------- http://www.aurorashow.com/"> 
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Posted By: kennyz06
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2010 at 3:34pm
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I didn't use the w2e tool, and I didn't import from LOR2. I've never created a sequence in LOR, until recently. I may have imported these from spectrum, but I doubt I did that too. Did you download that sequence and see the problems in it? It's not a huge deal, as I think Im just going to redo all my sequences in S2 for this coming year anyway. Aurora was pretty cool, but the delays and bugs are forcing me to switch to LOR s2. Sucks, but it is what it is. ------------- http://www.McKinneyChristmas.com - http://www.McKinneyChristmas.com
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Posted By: bdkeen
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2010 at 4:30pm
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I tried to download the dls files - can see them there but get page not fould when trying to 'save target as'. Could never look at them to see if I could help you at all. -------------
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Posted By: ChrisL1976
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2010 at 4:45pm
Same here....music files worked, but no sequence files. ------------- Chris www.lightsonsixth.com |
Posted By: MrChristmas2000
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2010 at 8:24pm
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I got the files downloaded but when I try to load them Aurora crashes.
------------- http://www.aurorashow.com/">
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Posted By: ChrisL1976
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2010 at 9:15pm
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Yeah, let me clarify, I can save them to my hard drive with typing a DLS behind them, but then I get a error code and crash when try to open them
------------- Chris www.lightsonsixth.com |
Posted By: mmciver
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2010 at 1:43pm
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I know that I had a few issues this year as well. I took my sequences from last year that were built in Aurora and imported a new channel template. I did this because I added some controllers and wanted to save what work I had done from last year and add to it. I updated all of my songs in order. 2 of the songs would cause the scheduler to crash at odd times requiring a reboot. Once I finally figured out what 2 songs were causing the trouble, I started from my original 2008 sequences. I would load 1 sequence, import my channel files and save them. Then I would reload Aurora Sequencer load in the new file and make changes. Once I did this, I had no issues and the show would run without fail. It was frustrating because I did not know if I had a hardware issue with my scheduler machine, or if it was software, or if I did something wrong. The stars aligned and the show went on with very little problems once I figured this out. ------------- Mike 
What do you mean I have enough lights? |