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Topic: DMX Lynx vs ACx16
Posted By: Pony_God
Subject: DMX Lynx vs ACx16
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2010 at 8:48am
Can anyone compare/contrast them? I've been to the site/forum thing that kinda talks about it, and I've seen the wiki page that shows something and some pics and I se there's some 128 port controller but it's all RJ45 connectors, so where's the AC (or is that DC) go?

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Posted By: cstrang
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2010 at 12:17pm
You must be talking about the Lynx Freestyle.  In addition to the controller board, you need to get SSR4 boards.  The SSR4 boards have the triacs and must be connected to AC and require a cat5 run to the controller board.  The AC-16 and Lynx Express have the triacs on the same PCB as the controller.

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Posted By: HarleyHaynes
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2010 at 8:03pm
Pony if you look here  http://www.holidaycoro.com/2010LSHworkshop/ - http://www.holidaycoro.com/2010LSHworkshop/   I think this might help out some.


Posted By: Pony_God
Date Posted: 19 Feb 2010 at 9:08am
Well, that information is usefull for a cost/complexity basis, but what about functionality? What can the Freestyle or SS4 actualy do? Can it do a rampping shimmer?
I suppose what I'm asking, is once an ACx16 and a Freestyle are built to compleation, and are sitting there with lights attached, how do they compare?


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Posted By: deweycooter
Date Posted: 19 Feb 2010 at 2:19pm
They speak different protocols.  The Lynx/Freestyle boards respond to a DMX signal.  D-Light has its own protocol that is very close to the LOR1 protocol.

DMX doesn't know what a ramp or fade or shimmer is.  It only knows how to do intensity commands, ie, turn on at 50%, turn OFF, turn FULL ON.  But your sequencing software can be used to generate a series of commands that make ramps/fades/shimmers/etc possible.  For a ramp from 0 to 100%, you don't have to create 20 individual commands: 0%, 5%, 10%, 15%, etc - the software can generate those for you.  So ramping shimmers are possible to - either the software needs to support them (to make it easier on you) or you can generate them manually (yuck).

D-Light boards speak differently.  Aurora can send it a single command to tell it to ramp from 0 to 100% over the next 3/4 of a second.  The controller then takes over and makes the necessary adjustments to control the lights over that time period. 

There's pros and cons to each.  DMX sends intensity commands to every channel at every time step - so there's no change into how much data gets sent.  For D-Light, the amount of data can vary depending on what's going on in the sequence.  It can be little to none, or much more than the DMX equivalent.

In the end, sequencing is pretty much the same - the only difference is specifying what type of controller you're dealing with.  I haven't noticed a difference in the visual result - it can be different theoretically (update frequency - but that's a software setting), but I haven't noticed any difference.


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Posted By: Pony_God
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2010 at 7:48am
I understand that DMX is a differnt protocal, but I think the second half answered the question.
So, Aurora will support in software for DMX all of the commands that D-Lights supports in hardware. Right?
So, I suppose the question would be: When comparing to a D-Light Silver, why not buy the freestyle and save 50%?


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Posted By: deweycooter
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2010 at 9:18am
I won't answer for Michael, but I would expect for all commands to be supported on the DMX side.

Adding a freestyle means another adapter for the separate network.  That might mean that you will use more cat5 than you would have otherwise used, and you've got a new piece of hardware that you have to have at least some level of understand in how to use, and no guaranteed support.  Some people aren't comfortable going there.  Those are the downsides that I see. 


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Posted By: ChrisL1976
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2010 at 10:24am
Whats the final price of the freestyle boards?   It doesn't seem like the silver kit is worth the hassle of soldering the entire thing, even at sale pricing.   Right now for the silver kit parts are like $134 dollars without shipping, then $100 for the board.  Thats $117 each when a built gold edition  board is $121.  By the time you add shipping its just about a wash.     You seriously mine as well buy the gold boards. 

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Posted By: Pony_God
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2010 at 8:24pm
Well, according to the 2010 Lone Star Holiday DIY Workshop ( http://www.holidaycoro.com/2010LSHworkshop/Controller%20Cost%20Comparison.pdf - http://www.holidaycoro.com/2010LSHworkshop/Controller%20Cost%20Comparison.pdf ), it's about $60 for a lynx where as the Silver is $120 + heatsinks
So half the cost... or more realistically twice the channels.
 
As for cat5 and networks... ehternet is cheap and we already have dual networks. I wouldn't mind switching over one side of the driveway to Freestyle and the D-Light controllers on the other net. OR, just start moving the D-light stuff wireless.
 
Did I see that DMX can go wireless too? I'm guessing that since it's still RS485 that lengths and termination is the same.


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Posted By: deweycooter
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2010 at 10:33pm
I played with the Lynx wireless this past year.  I didn't get the range I was hoping (trying to jump across the road and 200-300 ft down) and ended up just hardwiring everything.  The new version coming out is supposed to have better range.  Last year's transmitter was about $50 and each receiver about $20.  This year, there's only one type and it can be designated as a transmitter or receiver by setting a jumper - not sure what the price will be yet, but I'd be it's between $20 and $50.


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Posted By: Slinkard
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2010 at 12:53pm
Do you these require SSR's? or can you ren ext. coords directly to the board like the D-light boards?
If SSR's are required there is an additional cost that definatly needs to be work into the equation. The SSR and housings is why I originally switch over to the to the D-light boards. At that time it was a wash so I figure why am I doing all this soldering when I could be syncing.
 
Slink


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Posted By: Slinkard
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2010 at 12:58pm
nevermind just read prior posts - Has everyone taken those ssr's into account. When I was doing it they added 2.50 per channel - then the outlet - hardware ... I could see it adding 4 dollars a channel easy.
 
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Posted By: HarleyHaynes
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2010 at 8:03pm
Be sure not to confuse the lynx freestyle with the lynx express.  The Express is for lack of a better expression a copy of the LOR/D-light ac controllers. To assemble one with enclosure and cables, think (platinum version of D-light) I think was $97.  


Posted By: Bigindian
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2010 at 8:18pm

The Lynx Express and the Freestyle are two different animals.  As HH said above the Express is a 16 channel controller that is essentially the same type controller as an AC16.  The freestyle is a 128 Controller only.  To be complete, it requires the SSR modules at each location where control is required.  Each SSR4 is a 4 channel device capable of controlling 4 channels at any one spot in your show.  The idea behind this controller is you can tie each SSR4 to a specific area in the show and have 1 central controller for all 128 channels.

 
 


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Posted By: Pony_God
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2010 at 8:07am
So... I'm back to why D-Light or LOR when the Express is 1/2 the cost  and all functionality is in software instead of hardware?
Ya-know, I'm not trying to be anti-DLight here. I'm just trying to see if I'm missing something.
Is it the same type of difference between D-Light/LOR and Animated Lighting? So Is Animated Lights to D-Light as D-Light is to Lynx?
Of course this could be half the problem since the Lynx site is just a forum, and there's really no product page comparing or explaining the product.
 
Also, I do understand that the Freestyle is a ... header for multiple other SSRs (controllers) and do nothing themselves, could be nice if there's some compact and complex display. Possibly a 64 channel tree so instead of putting 4 controllers there, you could use a single Freestyle and 4 SSRs, but even that doesn't seem to make too much logic. Can each SSR handle more amperage?


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Posted By: deweycooter
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2010 at 8:33am
Just to clear up a minor detail - Each SSR controls 4 channels, so you're looking at 16 for a freestyle. Nevermind, I assumed SSR4 instead of SSR16.  I don't see the advantage with SSR16s over the LE.

Actually, I think of the advantage of a Freestyle is when you have elements that are really spread out.  For each SSR (group of 4 channels), you can trade using 4 extension cords with 1 (potentially longer) and a cat5 run.  Cat5 is cheaper to run than extension cords.

Amperage - I think it's limited by the triac, so unless there are beefier triacs on board, I'm not sure there'd be a difference.


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Posted By: cstrang
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2010 at 2:08pm
Don't forget another advantage of the Freestyle being that you can expand as needed.  The full system consists of one freestyle controller and 32 SSR4 modules, but you only need the controller and 1 SSR4 module to turn on 4 strings(or groups) of lights.  The SSR4's are "cheap" in the sense that each (pcb and parts) is about 12 bucks.  The controller is close to 80.00 and for less than 100 you have a 128 channel capable system with 4 channels.  add SSR's as you get funds...   Star

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Posted By: Rod R
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2010 at 2:46am
Keep an eye out looks like RJ is going to do another Coop on the Lynx Express in the next week or two.  The last one over 500 LE were ordered.


Posted By: RJ
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2010 at 1:00pm
Maybe I might know enough to help?
 
   It is hard to compare the Freestyle (FS) to the commercial controllers. The seperate SSR from the controller is a hang on from the DIY world. Many of the DIY users were use to the two being seperate and keeping the controller (Brain part) in the garage and the SSR in the yard. You can control a lot of channels from just one board if it is only the controller part since power is not a limiting factor. Think of a 128 channel full unit like a LOR or Express. Man how would you feed it 512 amps to meet the capacity it could handle and how big would the circuit board traces have to be to handle it, and the board would be HUGE!
 
So back to the comparison. They all do the same thing, dim lights. They all have 16 channels. They use different protocols to talk. We use DMX which is supported by almost everyone now. The stuff about fades and twinkles is not an issue. The reason D-light and LOR did this in the hardware was because the communication they used was slow enough that at large amounts of channels you could overload the pipe. So they offloaded it to the hardware so they could tell it what to do for the next few seconds and not tell it each step of the way. DMX runs fast and you will always get 512 channels updated all the time so there is no problem up to 512 channels and then you simply start a new DMX "Universe" to get another 512 channels. The user does not know the difference in other words. You mark a ramp and the software handles telling the controllers what to do.
Here is one of our users that uses LOR and Lynx stuff and he has a video talking about it. http://www.christmasonmanor.com/2009video/LYNXandLOR.wmv - http://www.christmasonmanor.com/2009video/LYNXandLOR.wmv
 
If the issue that seems wrong is the cost and what are you giving up for it then it is simple, you have to solder it, No one is in bussiness and so we do not have employees to pay or rent on the building, profit we must make, ect. We do not have warranty to take care of you built it you fix it. We do have great support and have always been able to help anyone needing it. The units even can do things other can't, like custom normilized curves per channel to allow you to mix and match lights and make the dim and ramp all at the same linear rate. Push button programming with a display and built in test mode with the ablitity to turn the lights on and off at the unit while you setup.  Cheap wireless that while one poster here had issues with range many used it without issue. We have even created a ver 2 that is in beta that outputs 2 - 3 time the signal. Now it is line of sight so you have to stay within its limitations but for $20 a controller to be wireless it is worth doing so. Setup and tear down becomes so easy with out the data cables to worry about.   
 
The last thing is the comment about us not having a page to use to compare. I think the problem is you must be looking only at the forum. We have a WIKI for this very reason with everything you want to know.
 
Check out this link :
http://diylightanimation.com/wiki/index.php?title=Equipment - http://diylightanimation.com/wiki/index.php?title=Equipment
That takes you to the equipment page but the wiki as a whole has a lot of information in it.
 
Remember any controller that works for you and makes the light blink is the one to have. My stuff is just another option and I never tell people they are better than XYZ units. Cause I can't whats better for any given person they have to make those calls themself. We all have different needs.  
 
Hope I helped and did not intrude in your thread unwelcomed.
 
RJ
 


Posted By: deweycooter
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2010 at 7:23pm
Thanks RJ - good to see you here.  :)

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Posted By: Pony_God
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2010 at 9:04am
Mr. RJ, thanks for dropping by and you deffinately have clearly stated pretty much everything that I've been wondering. I did see the Wiki, but not knowing that it's software based instead of hardware based control, I though that there was a lot of information missing and without knowing what an SSR is (and still have no idea what it stands for) it all made less clear.
I think that the "2010 Lone Star Holiday DIY Workshop" document "Controller Feature Comparison" compared the options available quite nicely. Although I think that if it had a section for featureset and if it informed me of h/w vs s/w, then that would have made things even clearer.
Controller%20Features%20and%20Functions%20Comparison.pdf -
 
So if there is no for-profit company, who designed built the boards? Who builds the firmware and maintains it? Do you not want paied for your time and effort?
 
Well, now, see, I suppose I have to get on the DMX bus now? I think I'll wait until Aurora has DMX out and an adapter before buying some Expresses though.
 
RJ, again, thank you.


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Posted By: RJ
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2010 at 1:23pm
Well first and foremost,  A SSR is a "Solid State Relay" that is the part of a controller that switches the high voltage. Then is the controller part which tells it when to do it. In LOR, Expresses and D-lights they are one in the same in that all of it is on the same board.
 
So I do not get you turned around all DMX equipment knows nothing about fades twinkles ect. They only go to the level they were told to go to, in a way they are dumber devices but do to the speed and compatibilty of DMX they have their benifits.
 
DIY as a whole is about giving and getting so we do it because we can and it helps. I design the pcbs for the lynx line of equipment myself and write all the firmware. As much as we all like to make money it is about something bigger. See I like you, enjoy putting on christmas shows to bring joy to others. But I did not want to pay what the commerical stuff cost. I found the DIY communitity and started to build some stuff, having some abilities allowed me to create things more to my liking and do it cheap. Then when others wanted to do the same I shared and they did. Then I notice that I could make thousands and thousands of people happy by helping others afford to put shows on through sharing my stuff. I could never do that by just putting shows on.
 
I am not alone there is a large DIY community and normally it works the same way.
 
I hope this explains it somewhat for you.  
 
RJ


Posted By: Comporder1
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2010 at 2:21pm
RJ, it's funny to see the title "Newbie" under your name on the left! HAhahah!! LOL
 
Maybe Micheal can grant you an honorary title.
 
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Posted By: Rod R
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2010 at 9:52pm
OK Guys and Gals, I just saw a post on the  DIY site and RJ just started up the second coop of 2010 for the 16 Channel Lynx Express.  I know a few members were wondering how to get them and found out a little too late after the coop was over. So head over to this link if your interested.  Like RJ said there are a lot of members willing to help out if people have questions concerning the Lynx controllers.

http://diylightanimation.com/index.php?topic=2767.0 - http://diylightanimation.com/index.php?topic=2767.0
  


Posted By: Slinkard
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2010 at 10:51am
That link worked one time, then I needed to sign in now I can't find the thread with the COOP. I was gonna order 2.
 
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Posted By: Rod R
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2010 at 11:07am
Its towards the bottom of the page under "Current Coops", click on that ant the top Coop listed title is "2nd Express Coop of 2010" is the one you want.  

You have to be a member to be in the Coops.  It only takes a minute to register and it doesn't cost anything. So if you wanted to get in on it I wouldn't let that hold you back.Embarrassed   


Posted By: Slinkard
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2010 at 11:12am
nevermind I guess you have to do an intro before you can see anything on the forums.. I am in now.

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Posted By: LightsOnLogan
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2010 at 6:12pm
News release at D-Light:

http://d-light.us/ - http://d-light.us/

http://d-light.us/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=91&category_id=11&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=26 - http://d-light.us/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=91&category_id=11&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=26


D-Light now has the ACx16 Gold (no soldering required) for $95.50 (just under $6 per channel).  This "open edition" of the ACx16 controller lacks the standard D-Light firmware and instead is capable of running community supported DMX firmware.

Now all we need is for some PIC programmers to join the D-Light forums and to get the DMX firmware started! 






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Posted By: Slinkard
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2010 at 11:44am
and what do you know - I am becoming a Pic programmer. I am currently doing for the Le's but the actual code is already code. I'll look into it see what it takes to work it for the D-Light Boards
 
Slink


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Posted By: deweycooter
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2010 at 12:52pm
I am currently doing for the Le's but the actual code is already code

Do you mean you're flashing your PICs for your LEs or also writing code?

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Posted By: Slinkard
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2010 at 1:04pm
Not currently writing the code but if I know me (and I do) I will be soon.

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Posted By: deweycooter
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2010 at 1:11pm
PM sent

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Posted By: Comporder1
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2010 at 10:12am
I plan on also jumping on board with the PIC programming. Does anyone have anything going yet? What language is everyone using? Does anyone have the LE program (not hex)? I would like to try to port that over to the ACx16! It should be do-able.

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Posted By: deweycooter
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2010 at 11:47am
The only thing available for the LE is the hex.  The http://christmasinshirley.com/wiki/index.php?title=Renard_Firmware - Renard DMX code is available , but it's for a different PIC.  Hopefully it's just timings and I/O remapping...

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Posted By: Bigindian
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2010 at 4:53pm
Here is what I do to read the hex files
 
Just download MPLAB !!!

- View\Program Memory
- File \Import

Choose the "Machine" or "Symbolic" Tab, at the left Bottom of the window ...

BUT:

- Labels and aliases can't be displayed ( not stored by the Hex File ) ... so, it's difficult to add lines without a GOTO-GOTO jumper; lines removed must be replaced by a NOP or equ.

DO NOT CHANGE THE LINE NUMBERS !!! without exactly knowing what you are doing ...

Only real interest is to translate strings, or add a part ( or 2 , or 3 ) of program at the end of the listing.

to save : right click, and " save as " progmod.txt " ...
 
 
 


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Posted By: RJ
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2010 at 7:13pm
1st  -  Not nice to steal code from others that do not offer it (illegal under copyright laws also).
2nd  - since the LE uses a 16 bit pic not a 8 bit like this unit, uses lots of memory not avaliable on this chip for the LNT, is complete menu driven which this unit does not have the display and inputs for it,  it would be kind of difficult to make it work.
 
RJ


Posted By: Comporder1
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2010 at 12:56pm
Originally posted by RJ

1st  -  Not nice to steal code from others that do not offer it (illegal under copyright laws also).
2nd  - since the LE uses a 16 bit pic not a 8 bit like this unit, uses lots of memory not avaliable on this chip for the LNT, is complete menu driven which this unit does not have the display and inputs for it,  it would be kind of difficult to make it work.
 
RJ
 
RJ,
 
Oooo.... Ouch! It was never my intention to steal anything from you RJ. Honestly, I never really thought about that. I guess being a DIY organization, I just assumed that your were also open source. I should have done my research first. (I guess I could have just asked you Embarrassed)
 
From everything that I have read that you have written, you seem to have the fellow DIY user's best interest in mind. I mean, you don't even have a "store" to sell your stuff! I understand that the program is your property if you choose for it to be, but I could see it benefiting the community for it to run on the ACx16 as well. I own 13 ACx16's that could benefit from a better firmware. (I just recieved 2 LE's too!)
 
RE: hardware limitations. I had not even looked into the differences in the microcontrollers, other than the part #, when I posted above. After researching further, I can see the limitations that the ACx16 PIC would have. But maybe a scaled down version could work? Like only one curve per entire unit rather than a per channel basis.
 
You will be happy to know that I have not even started on the project and will not pursue it any further without your permission.
 
Please accept my apology,
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Posted By: deweycooter
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2010 at 1:36pm
I don't want to speak for RJ, but I think he's referring to disassembling his hex files. 

Personally, I think it would be a couple orders of magnitude easier to use publicly available code to get the gist of how a controller works, and use that as a starting point to adapting it to the ACx16 controller.  Trying to reverse engineer a hex file, ugh... ethical considerations aside, I'd rather have an argument with a brick wall.  :)


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Posted By: Bigindian
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2010 at 4:15pm
RJ,
 
I have to apologize too.  It was not my intention to take anything that was not mine either.  As far as the "RE factor",  my intention for me was to see how to impliment DMX on a PIC microprocessor and not to borrow or utilize anything. 
 
From my light reading, the 18F series of PICs is mostly a different animal from the 24 series.  Other than the DMX info that is freely available on the microchip.com forum.
 
Sorry to have offended you.  I can't speak for anyone else only to say that my intention was to learn from what you had done to benefit others in this hobby.
 
 


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Posted By: Slinkard
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2010 at 4:25pm
Yeah I agree with dewey on this. I have never planned to use RJ's as I know they won't work. But I do want to see what they use, I have never tried any of this so a lot looks at all kinds of peoples work is going to be needed I am sure.
From my limited opps programming everything is kinda "Borrowed" anyways so TBH I don't know the proper procedures. I guess thats part of my learning too.
 
Cheers and good times no one is intentionally trying to do anything wrong to anyone. We are all of 3000 folks in the world that actually do this, we all know one another and all pretty much interact with on another either here or various other sites. I knida assumed it would be a medaley of all of our ideas and thoughts when ity is all said and done.


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Posted By: dman776
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2010 at 5:29pm
Agreed.  Our intent is NOT to encourage "stealing" anyone's non-open source code.
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By the way, dimming curves could be done fairly easily with the PIC18F2420 via multiple lookup tables.

See my post for details...
http://www.d-light.us/forum/viewtopic.php?f=68&t=1884



Posted By: RJ
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2010 at 7:07pm
I was not offended just wanted to point out you need to look at weither code is put out in the open domain on not. Just cause you have access to something does not mean you can disassemble it and modify it.
 
It would be easier I agree to start from scratch then to try to follow someone elses assembly but then again I have 18f firmware for the Freestyle units and if I had hardware to work with I could adapt it I believe easily to run these. 
 
RJ  


Posted By: dman776
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2010 at 10:24am
Hi RJ,

email me at dquinn@d-light.us
I can arrange to send you a loaner unit if you want.

Thanks,

Darryl



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