Import Vixen sequences?
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Topic: Import Vixen sequences?
Posted By: Buckeyelights
Subject: Import Vixen sequences?
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2009 at 12:08pm
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Will Aurora import Vixen sequences?
I still consider myself terrible at setting the timing marks even with the little helper ticks that Aurora provides. So until I get more practice or more confidence, I like importing a sequence for the timing. Anyway there are a lot of Vixen sequences available and I was wondering if Aurora will successfully import them?
Tks!
Joe
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Posted By: deweycooter
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2009 at 9:18pm
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I've poked around with the Vixen file format - I have a pretty good handle on how it works, and based on what I know, importing Vixen would be... ugly? Vixen outputs a fixed time format - you can't adjust your timing marks like you can in Aurora - and every event is an intensity event. So a ramp down is just a series of intensities that step down. The D-Light and LOR controllers handle a ramp command as a single command (ramp down from 100% to 0% over 2 seconds) - Vixen would actually issue each intensity command at your chosen timing interval (100, 95, 90, 85, 80, ... etc). A converter would work. I don't think it would be pretty because it would be harder to visualize because you couldn't see ramps, shimmers, and twinkles. So further editing isn't as "fun?" All that said, I don't know that a converter exists. I could probably write one, but time isn't on my side right now. :( I'd suggest trying the community Aurora sequences if you haven't already - I'm sure there's also a LOR repository somewhere that you could use too. ------------- http://www.deweycooter.com/wiki/index.php/Aurora - Aurora Lights Wiki http://www.aurorashow.com/"> 
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Posted By: bdkeen
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2009 at 7:05am
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I had some rather limited success by importing Vixen into the LSP demo, saving as LOR, then importing the LOR into Aurora - BUT it wasn't clean and sequence from scratch became the better choice. If you attempt this do it before the LSP demo times out - once the LSP demo expires it stays expired even after a deinstall and wasn't able to run the demo again no matter what. I guess it's a try before you buy, but buy before it times out deal. (I haven't taken the time to see if it left stuff in the registry or somewhere so I could try the LSP demo approach again) ------------- 
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Posted By: LightsOnLogan
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2009 at 11:24am
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Aurora doesn't do this directly, but I might be able to help DC develop a third-party plugin for this.
DC,
Some ideas:
1) Don't import "repeat" events (commands of the same intensity as what already is on)
2) Detect "intensity ladders" and replace them with ramp commands. Since repeats have been eliminated in #1, it should be fairly easy to detect these (repeated up/down intensities happening at near identical time intervals [maybe within a 5% threshold]). I can give you the formula for converting the time interval into the SI and LI parameters to use in the ramp command (under our NDA of course).
3) Cleanup any "unused" timing marks (those "orphaned" timings which do not result in any new command happening)
That process should get the file into a clean Aurora format. Shimmers and twinkles obviously would not be easily importable since they wouldn't be easily distinguishable from real intensity commands (does Vixen even have those... I haven't looked at it).
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Posted By: Buckeyelights
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2009 at 11:52am
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Certainly not necessary to go through all the work for just me. I was wondering with a little bit of hope too. But as noted above there are plenty of LOR sequences and Aurora sequences available. If it would help market Aurora to more buyers, then, well that's not my call.
Tks!
Joe
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