Shifing timing on each computer
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Category: Aurora Sequencer Software
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Topic: Shifing timing on each computer
Posted By: Pony_God
Subject: Shifing timing on each computer
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2008 at 9:02am
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So I'm going to quess that the first response will be "use wav files", but I'll ask anyway.
I have a Dell Precision (Vista32), Gateway tablet(XP Tablet), and SuperMicro server(Server 2003) and have started each sequence on the Vista box with an mp3, editing back and forth on the tablet and the Vista box. Using only the 2003 box as the show server.
On each box, I need to adjust the timing so that all of the events line up correctly.
Why? ------------- Fine. You're so smart you rig up the lights. http://www.frappr.com/dlight - D-Light users Unite! 
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Posted By: peteandvanessa
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2008 at 10:20am
| Wav, wav, wav :-) |
Posted By: Pony_God
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2008 at 11:07am
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See? Isn't that what I said you'd say?
So the time shifting would go away with wavs? ------------- Fine. You're so smart you rig up the lights. http://www.frappr.com/dlight - D-Light users Unite!
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Posted By: peteandvanessa
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2008 at 11:13am
| I don't know alot about wav's versus mp3 but ALWAYS start with wav files. I have had a few sequences using mp3s and believe me sooner or later you will have issues with the mp3 files. |
Posted By: ChrisL1976
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2008 at 11:34am
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I'll second that....I've never had a issue with any wav files I've used. I had 2 out of 6 sequences last year that gave me issues until I changed the files to Wav format...(the other 4 were already wav files) Lets start a Wav FILE wave :) WAV WAV WAV WAV WAV WAV WAV WAV WAV WAV WAV WAV WAV WAV WAV WAV ------------- Chris www.lightsonsixth.com |
Posted By: Pony_God
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2008 at 3:13pm
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fine.... I'm converting everything now... ------------- Fine. You're so smart you rig up the lights. http://www.frappr.com/dlight - D-Light users Unite!
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Posted By: Pony_God
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2008 at 3:28pm
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Great, not I can't play any one the ones that I moved to wavs... I get the can't redraw error.
EDIT: It's the good old error 480
Aurora Error Encountered at 10/2/2008 4:31:29 PM
Debugging Information: 480: Can't create AutoRedraw image Resize Preview Picture LightsOnLoganSequencer Good thing I have all of the files on the laptop as well! ------------- Fine. You're so smart you rig up the lights. http://www.frappr.com/dlight - D-Light users Unite!
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Posted By: LightChristmas
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2008 at 3:36pm
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Rip straight from your CD to a WAV with media player. No CD? You need to own the original music to legally be using it. ------------- http://www.aurorashow.com/"> 
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Posted By: ChrisL1976
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2008 at 3:44pm
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Do you own the Cd's??? Or is the downloaded Music? (itunes, amazon, walmart) If its from a CD, I just use Itunes to convert them to WAV and never had any issues ------------- Chris www.lightsonsixth.com |
Posted By: Pony_God
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2008 at 3:46pm
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Well, I tried them on the 2003 box and they all seem to work so far.
I'm saving each one again there, and will bring them back.
I had the CDs at one point, but got rid of them after the files went digital. ------------- Fine. You're so smart you rig up the lights. http://www.frappr.com/dlight - D-Light users Unite!
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Posted By: ChrisL1976
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2008 at 3:52pm
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If their saved on your computer from a CD, you should have no issue converting them to Wav files........what did you use to convert the one you had issues with in Aurora? You can also use Audacity to save them to Wav as well...just open them and resave as Wav ------------- Chris www.lightsonsixth.com |
Posted By: Pony_God
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2008 at 4:09pm
That's what I did.
They seem fine on 2003, no longer work in Vista.
I've resaved them in 2003 and pulled them back, and they still do not work. I've also cleared out the cache directory to see if that helped. It didn't.
I do have arches in them, not that it should make a difference. Right? ------------- Fine. You're so smart you rig up the lights. http://www.frappr.com/dlight - D-Light users Unite!
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Posted By: peteandvanessa
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2008 at 4:29pm
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So what format are they set up for.
I converted mine in audacity ( http://www.audacity.com - www.audacity.com ) from MP3 to WAV format:
Project Rate: 44100
Save as File Type: WAV, AIFF, and other uncompressed types
If you right click on the wav file and look at properties -> summary you should see something like:
Bite Rate: 705kbps
audio sample: 8 bit
channels 2 (stereo)
audio sample rate: 44khz
audio format: PCM
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Posted By: ChrisL1976
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2008 at 4:49pm
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Hmmm.....My audacity setting are different for the wav format. bit rate 1411 audio sample size 16 bit chanels 2 stero audio sample rate 44kHz audio format PCM All of mine are 16 bit Not sure if that will make a difference or not. ------------- Chris www.lightsonsixth.com |
Posted By: peteandvanessa
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2008 at 5:01pm
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Sounds like either work because yours works on the H/W and so does mine :-)
I just flipped mine to 16 bit and get the same file specs as yours now :-)
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Posted By: Pony_God
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2008 at 5:41pm
Yep, that's what I have. I just opened the mp3 in audacity, and exported as wav.
I'm transfering the updated to my tablet now to see if they work here. ------------- Fine. You're so smart you rig up the lights. http://www.frappr.com/dlight - D-Light users Unite!
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Posted By: peteandvanessa
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2008 at 5:54pm
| now I bet a $1 it will work :-) |
Posted By: ChrisL1976
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2008 at 5:59pm
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Does anyone really know why MP3 cause troubles? I know Wav file are much larger, maybe it has something to do with the file compression. ------------- Chris www.lightsonsixth.com |
Posted By: Pony_God
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2008 at 6:05pm
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Not on the Vista box... I can no longer play any of the sequences that have the wavs. ------------- Fine. You're so smart you rig up the lights. http://www.frappr.com/dlight - D-Light users Unite!
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Posted By: LightsOnLogan
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2008 at 6:20pm
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The best settings for a WAV file are 44.1kHz, 16-bit, 2 channels. When ripping from a CD this will result in a lossless file that doesn't have any aliasing artifacts. ------------- http://www.aurorashow.com/"> 
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Posted By: Pony_God
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2008 at 6:32pm
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Do you think that Vista has an issue with the file not being at 44.1kHz? ------------- Fine. You're so smart you rig up the lights. http://www.frappr.com/dlight - D-Light users Unite!
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Posted By: tonyjmartin
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2008 at 9:44pm
And it still somehow ended up being my fault. But that's why I don't do theatre anymore. The less I have to do with Yale graduates, the better.  ------------- Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted. -- Ralph Waldo Emerson |
Posted By: Pony_God
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2008 at 10:04pm
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Someone bought BeOS!? Alright, I'll reconvert the mp3s to 44.1, see if that helps anything. ------------- Fine. You're so smart you rig up the lights. http://www.frappr.com/dlight - D-Light users Unite!
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Posted By: Pony_God
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2008 at 10:43pm
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I can't update the kHz, I'm stuck at 14 ------------- Fine. You're so smart you rig up the lights. http://www.frappr.com/dlight - D-Light users Unite!
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Posted By: tonyjmartin
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2008 at 10:58pm
Too bad for BeOS, though. It was a cute little streamlined software. Kind of a mix of the positive aspects of Mac and PC. But that was at the turn of the century, and things have gotten a bit more complex since then.  Back to your regularly scheduled holiday display program.... ------------- Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted. -- Ralph Waldo Emerson |
Posted By: JonB256
Date Posted: 03 Oct 2008 at 7:53am
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Pony, you said the software was "stuck at 44" I looked through Audacity and always saw 44100 as the sample frequency. (bottom left of the screen is where I set my output sample rate, then just go to File/Export as WAV. ) I hope you are always going back to the most original file for these conversions. Resampling a file that has already been resampled once or twice will really add a lot of sound artifacts. ------------- JonB - D-Light user |
Posted By: Pony_God
Date Posted: 03 Oct 2008 at 8:40am
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Sorry, I ment 1411kbps. I am at 44100kHz
When I looked at the file thjough XP, I saw the below, though Vista I can't see as much.
bit rate 1411
audio sample size 16 bit chanels 2 stero audio sample rate 44kHz audio format PCM I have all of the default settings from Audacity, 44100kHz, floating 32bit, and exported as wav. The wav runs perfectly fine in media player, Aurora on 2003, and Aurora on XP. I just can't play anything in Vista anymore.
Alright, so here's another oddity to add to the mix. Last night the Vista box had an actuall BSOD, stuck there when I got in today. After the reboot everything seems to work again.
I'd like to be able to check the audio file name though, the field isn't long enough to show me the extention. ------------- Fine. You're so smart you rig up the lights. http://www.frappr.com/dlight - D-Light users Unite!
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Posted By: LightsOnLogan
Date Posted: 03 Oct 2008 at 1:54pm
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Aurora might not like the floating resolutions (24 bit, 32 bit). You should stick with 16 bit.
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Posted By: Pony_God
Date Posted: 03 Oct 2008 at 2:26pm
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Alright, so make sure that the wavs are set to specifically 16bit. I'll re encode them. ------------- Fine. You're so smart you rig up the lights. http://www.frappr.com/dlight - D-Light users Unite!
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Posted By: Pony_God
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2008 at 12:03pm
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Nope, that didn't help. Vista seems to like my waves less than the mp3 of the same ausio file. Again today, I cannot play a single sequence, and I get the standard can't redraw error.
I'm rebooting now, see if that fixes anything. ------------- Fine. You're so smart you rig up the lights. http://www.frappr.com/dlight - D-Light users Unite!
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