rgb channel problem?
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Topic: rgb channel problem?
Posted By: JohnnyL
Subject: rgb channel problem?
Date Posted: 27 Jun 2009 at 12:15pm
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i need a little help here. ive got 48 channels setup rgb on 3 dcx16's. irq's are 1, b and c. in hwu all is good, no problems. when running a sequence with a board connected and 2 rgb channels wired up for testing things get crazy. starting a sequence the behave normally. when there is no "on" or "twinkle" commands the lights will "strobe" until the next "on" command. have you guys seen this before? thanks, John ------------- "In God We Trust" all others pay cash |
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Posted By: Jonathan
Date Posted: 27 Jun 2009 at 10:15pm
Nope, can't say as that I have.  I'll take it that you've got v1.11 firmware on the DCx16 and that you are not using the enhanced effects (ramping shimmer, etc.). Something seems to be confusing the commands being sent to the board and my best guess is the ID selection.Place the ID's in sequential order. Instead of 1, B, C, try A,B,C, or 1,2,3. If that doesn't work, report back and we'll try something else. ------------- ~Jonathan |
Posted By: JohnnyL
Date Posted: 27 Jun 2009 at 11:57pm
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thanks for the reply, i created a seperate sequence just for testing this problem. i tried many combinations. when the channels are "normal" (not RGB) everything works great. when i delete say channels 1, 2, & 3 and create an RGB channel thats when it happens. i tried switching the boards, lights connected to the boards, switched things up a lot but get same result everytime.
as far as ID selection, the problem exists wether its 1 board or all 3. we are about 12 hrs into our 2nd song for 09 and ive got to know wether its an Aurora thing, a D-Light thing or a JohnnyL thing before we go further. thanks again, John ------------- "In God We Trust" all others pay cash |
Posted By: Jonathan
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2009 at 12:51am
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Start by eliminating the simple things: The boards are all running firmware v1.11, correct? You are not using enhanced effects (e.g. random ramping twinkle), correct? The boards aren't set to servo mode (from a past show perhaps), correct? How are you are connecting to the boards? CAT 5, wiLink, or both? You only set up your first board as a "D-Light DCx16 (1.13+ firmware)" (ignore the 1.13+, it's a misnomer for the DCx16 which is currently at v1.11), correct? After that you right clicked starting with the first channel and, choosing channel properties, you ensured that "D-Light RGB over ACx16 or DCx16" was selected, and then you entered the RGB channel information properly for all 16 channels, correct? Are we good so far? If so, what commands are working for you and what commands are not? ------------- ~Jonathan |
Posted By: JohnnyL
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2009 at 11:34am
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1. 1.11 firmware all boards are new
2. no ramping twinkle etc.
3. no servo mode
4. cat 5, no wiLink
5. i set the board up as a DCx16, (right click) then deleted and recreated the channels as RGB over ACx16 or DCx16. i then entered the channel information as needed per channel. with 1 channel left over on each controller which is just a DCx16 channel.
Now, all channel functions are normal, On, Twinkle, Shimmer etc. work fine. Its when there are no commands that it get weird. no commands = random "strobing" on all elements until the channel is turned back on.
Ive also tested the boards using non RGB channels 1-16 and the boards performed normally. off is off. its only when in RGB that the problem pops up. thanks again, John ------------- "In God We Trust" all others pay cash |
Posted By: Jonathan
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2009 at 1:48pm
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This probably won't make a difference but something worth trying is to set the entire board as RGB instead of 15 out of 16 channels. Forgot to ask, what is the Data Rate (Settings, Serial Network) set at? 56000? Did you set up your boards so that all the red are on one board, the green on another, and the blue on another, or did you set it up as channel 1 is red, channel 2 is green, channel 3 is blue, 4 is red, 5 is green, 6 is blue, etc. on one board? Do ramps work for you? Is it just off commands that are the issue? Have you set an intensity at 0% and placed it in a cell, or just not programmed an effect in the cell / used the 'X' tool? There is quite a lot going on behind the scenes right now (please be patient if this isn't resolved immediately), but I'll try to find time to replicate your issue with my two DCx16 boards. ------------- ~Jonathan |
Posted By: JohnnyL
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2009 at 2:34pm
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Jon, Data Rate is 56000
the boards are setup network 1 ID 1 channels 1 red,2 green,3 blue etc. etc.
have not tried the Ramps it is only Off where we have problems. when channles are to Twinkle or On in a set color or color transistion it all works great but...where there are NO commands they all just "strobe".
this years show includes 8 ACx16's 3 DCx16's and 2 Firefly's and is spread includes 2 houses which is why ID #s are so far apart (1,B,C). thanks again, John ------------- "In God We Trust" all others pay cash |
Posted By: Jonathan
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2009 at 5:38pm
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I am not able to replicate your issue here. All commands on my board are received fine, but to be fair I am using a different version of Aurora than you are. Since you are using the RGB tool to program effects, try programming a Set Color command using hex value "010000" (or just put a '1' in the 'R' spot and leave th others fields set to '0'). This will send an on command to the controller, albeit one that is such a small intensity that the lights shouldn't even respond. Let me know if that works. If not, try creating the channel from scratch, not by making a controller first and then editing it, but by right clicking and saying 'add new channel', then choosing RGB and assigning the channels to it. ------------- ~Jonathan |
Posted By: JohnnyL
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2009 at 8:20pm
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i tried deleting the channels in the test sequence and it was throwing errors at me closing the program. so i created a new sequence and added the RGB without adding a controller and it works fine. everything responds as it should. ill try the hex thing next. thanks again, John ------------- "In God We Trust" all others pay cash |
Posted By: Jonathan
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2009 at 9:17pm
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Glad to see you back on track. If it happens again, you might want to write down the errors you were getting in case Micheal wants to see them once things get a little less crazy. ------------- ~Jonathan |
Posted By: JohnnyL
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2009 at 9:53pm
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i took a pic of the error
http://www.libeckilane.com/download/Aurora%20error1.jpg - http://www.libeckilane.com/download/Aurora%20error1.jpg
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Posted By: Jonathan
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2009 at 10:22pm
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My computer knowledge is limited to what I learned in the 90's, but that did NOT look like an Aurora error. That looked like a sector of your memory went bad error. If the computer starts behaving strangely, a bad portion of memory may be the cause. To be safe, I'd suggest doing a thorough memory scan of the system. You can access those tools in the BIOS of the computer by doing a cold boot. The screen will flash "Press F2 for BIOS Options" or whatever key your BIOS uses to get into the BIOS menu. From there you should be able to access the tools you need to diagnose any hardware issues. ------------- ~Jonathan |
Posted By: JohnnyL
Date Posted: 29 Jun 2009 at 12:09am
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i only got that error when i deleted all of the channels in that sequence. after the first time it did it, i shut down and did the cold boot. when i reopened Aurora and the channels were still there so i made a new sequence, added the channels and no more error. i guess the workaround for this is going to delete and redo the RGB channels in all of our sequences until its fixed. if you want a copy of the test sequence ill send it to you guys if you think it will help. Thanks Again, John ------------- "In God We Trust" all others pay cash |
Posted By: Jonathan
Date Posted: 29 Jun 2009 at 12:53pm
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It's much easier to set up RGB channel by channel (by right clicking and choosing "add new channel") rather than add a controller and then edit it to fit the channel settings, firefly excepted.
I think you were lucky. The memory error happened to occur with Aurora instead of say, the operating system. ------------- ~Jonathan |
Posted By: bdkeen
Date Posted: 29 Jun 2009 at 2:41pm
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My fist year this year using a DCx16 and RGB for MR15 LED wash units. Using channels 1 -12 in RGB fashion to drive 4 wash units and the remaing 4 channels individually. It's been working perfectly for me. ------------- 
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Posted By: JohnnyL
Date Posted: 29 Jun 2009 at 5:02pm
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yeah, i dont want or need any new quirks with "Fistya". hopefully with this workaround we can keep moving forward. Thanks a bunch for help. i hope you guys can figure out what caused it. maybe it had something to do with the import thing i mentioned in another thread.
this is my first year with the DCx16's and RGB and Aurora. for us, its much easier to use than S2 especially with the RGB and we should have switched over last year but it was too late. i think if we had done so we wouldve finished a few more songs than we did.
Thanks Again, John ------------- "In God We Trust" all others pay cash |
Posted By: JohnnyL
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2009 at 6:34pm
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the RGB problem has happened again. this time it is only in one sequence. ive tried deleting and reentering the channels to the point of frustration. this time however only 2 of the DCx16's are acting up. ID's "B" and "C". i will add that all 7 of the other completed sequences run flawless. any ideas as to what might be causing this? Thanks, John ------------- "In God We Trust" all others pay cash |
Posted By: JohnnyL
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2009 at 4:42pm
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BUMP! ------------- "In God We Trust" all others pay cash |